Comment by shortcake on For Your Murder - Chapter 64

Comment on ChapterFor Your Murder - Chapter 64
if some yall have problem reading these type of stories then why dont just quit?? i have seen way worse than this in bl manhwas and honestly i really want to see how their relationship goes and ends up its really interesting that this psychotic guy is somehow capable to love? like u can clearly see its not just a possession anymore and im not saying "oh look he's so in love!!!" typa thing but the way he actually wants her to love him idk how he came to tht conclusion tbh this is a really good psychological thriller i was looking forward yall have to always act like some kind of saints pushing morals into these fiction stories bffr if these is not your type of thing then there is always an option to quit without ruining it for others!!! and accusing ppl they support serial killers and these kind of thing in general wow 
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veralol
veralolMember·1 month ago(edited)

Trust me when I say someone like Inseop is not capable of healthy love. He was born this way, completely lacks affective empathy and only has very intact cognitive empathy. He is the definition of a Primary psychopath 

I say this as someone with some traits that are similar to Inseop's (lack of empathy, no remorse - guilt, etc), but I have ASD and it gives me a moral compass/limit.

And honestly, if someone came up to me and asked me if I loved them; it's a direct

No, I cannot love people and I'll literally break their heart without feeling anything. It's like an exchange and the person is not necessarily a person; just something there interacting. If relationship, it's utilitarian type. For some people, affective empathy and emotions are just literally absent. You can fake due to understanding, but it's absent meaning they will never feel love like the general population/most people. If emotions are not there, you can't love anyone or feel anything for them. You can understand what they feel and etc

People like Inseop cannot love, they can understand what "love" is, but it is not love.
Does it make sense "how he came to the conclusion"?

It's just in his mind. He wants to own her as an object and not a human being. 

Im also here for the psychological thriller/psychology of each character.
But I don't see what's wrong with the moral part tbh. Psychological takes are interesting and helpful to understand patterns? Just Imo.
@veralol litterally they're people who exists shaming others or the story itself for being too dark or for having sensitive topics except the thing is mostly its the straight manhwas that get hate or the people who are interested in it! acussing people they support 🍇 or being blackmailed and chain up or smth or seeing your love ones get killed and stuffs lol like isnt that common sense?? NO ONE!!!(or normal) people would never ever think this is sum cool sh** and want to experience it themselves irl cmon 😭 The stuffs in this manhwa doesnt even comes close to the ones in bl manhwas and i feel like this should be addressed like why such a big difference?? and i feel like we should just keep in mind they're all fiction  just like horror movies  and stop self inserting ourselves and gettin triggered by it If someone cant handle manhwas like these quit it and stop accusing other readers thats it!
veralol
veralolMember·1 month ago(edited)
@shortcake  
well
Idk what to say because I always get this argument
Yes, it is fiction, but some people keep saying How much he loves her (no fuc**** way?? what is this odd fantasy people have made up lmao??  😭..)

Literally, TRUST ME when I say people with CU traits like Inseop are incapable of love (the only reason I do long analysis is to inform behavior and etc). I do get your argument, but I've seen much more people attack others/me trying to say "I think he loves her" for even saying what Inseop is doing is wrong.
Not here, but on other ones yes. Surprisingly, some changed their mind or are more so straight up saying it's wrong which is good
I still get lots of people who still say "It's love". 
(and IMO, it is common sense)
If you say that a fictional character abusing another character is hot, but then irl you wouldn't want that; It's 100% cognitive dissonance and you're trying to say I'm not in support, but still saying "he loves her". I won't get too much into psychology lol. I understand 100% people who come to read, analyze what is happening without taking in count if his abuse is romantic. Since media romanticizes ra** and all, of course it looks romantic.
And that's where the danger lies, when it becomes normalized (because ra** is joked about IRL too).
Issue is that ATLEAST webcomics where they glorify ra** is obvious.
This one has 0 romanticizing and still people put in their fantasies of victim ending up with her abuser.
Some people consume violence and use fiction as a facade. Authors exploit it cuz it attracts readers which is why it's so common to see abuse webcomics.
As long as you seperate fiction and reality. But you can still call out the behavior of a character, tho

I stopped reading the comments because it's the same thing. All I do now is analyze chapters and move on. Because the comment section is a comment section. People will say whatever they want.
I think we have a similar issue, but mine is the opposite of yours.

I never saw anything wrong with readers who analyze, but da**, those who always go and say 'He loves her' are the ones who propagate it's normal to others.

I see your POV and it's alright. I wanted to understand. 
👍
@veralol omg i get where you're coming from and analyzing character is fine but im specifically talking about the ''accusing people'' for liking the story and the characters itself and personally i love how well written his character is and does it automatically make me a bad person? lol NO!!😭 that was all i pointed out
veralol
veralolMember·1 month ago(edited)
@shortcake  
Ah that. I misunderstood lol
I see this much rarer though actually. Idk how?
I usually get more shamed for saying characters are bad..

But I get it. Anyways, it's fine. 
I'm into the deviant/criminal mind since I was young and am into criminology so I read cases all the time and fiction too. 
Some people used to think it was ruining my mental? It doesn't.

Doesn't make you a bad person. 
Try ignoring these type of people and comments if so
There's a difference between liking characters in fiction and supporting/condoning, so don't feel bad about it!
@veralol preach girly the only healthy relationship he'll be able to have is with satan