@Jehjeh Actually, me and my friend had a conversation about the whole virginity thing. He said that different people have different views on where it starts and whatso. He said that most gay people say virginity gets taken where straight people would still say they're a virgin. For example, he said a girl giving a b**b still has her virginity, but a gay person who did something where they had to undress might already be enough for them. But it doesn't have to be just because someone's straight or gay, as Mormon people, I think, also think that virginity is only when you move your hips yourself or whatever, so it's really different for everyone. I've never had anything in me, or put anything in anyone, but I still consider to have had s*x before. My friend said he doesn't consider that since he thinks it only counts when something goes in. It really depends on the person, and when he said that, it reminded me of my friend. He could mean that it wasn't taking his virginity for him, since the other guy has other views of it. He could mean that he has more popular views on virginity, where someone has to put something in and someone has to be the one who gets it put in, but his friend has a different one.