@Teresa Nongrum I don't think he has nor had the capacity to think about someone else considering he was also pretty fuc*** up in the head during those years :') Raymond himself was in such an awful situation and he was desperate to start over, he didn't have the ability to think about someone else in that moment, and I mean frankly speaking, no one would. You'd prioritize yourself over someone who you haven't known for long. I don't deny that Raymond was wrong for manipulating Winter, he was absolutely awful for that, but there are so many other factors to consider here. also, I don't think Raymond chose that life for himself. He was forced into it, and when he started losing hope he just accepted his fate as a prostitute (I'm not sure whether they explicitly stated that he was a prostitute, but ykwim). It's true that Raymond did play a pretty significant role in making Winter what he is now, but also, we don't know what Winter himself went through in all those years after Raymond left. maybe he went through more traumatic events that lead him to become ever more crazy? Maybe if someone else who was a good willing stable person had helped him, his obsession wouldn't have gone to the point of him raping raymond, and maybe that obsession would've stayed more tame, who knows. Again, not denying anything that Raymond did or justifying his actions, but I think we should consider and understand both their situations. Although I do feel a little more hostile towards Winter than Raymond myself (primarily because there is never ever any excuse for ra** imho) I think the both of them are victims, as well as whatever the opposite of victim is. Certified yapper here but hope ppl read this 💥