Comment by Lyaen on Underworld Restaurant - Chapter 115

@Lyaen With respect, that is a comment made from a place of deep ignorance. I'm very close to someone who works in the field, and each and everyone of them is nothing short of heroes. I don't know what practices you think are shady, but there is more of a chance that they're not actually practices but misconceptions, misinformation, or just ignorance.

@Ronin

The part where if some one 'more in need' needs an organ, there have been reports of doctors choosing to let a patient die because they're an organ donor. And thank you for being a hero about it, I didn't say every single doctor in America is doing this...but there are cases of this happening because they believe another is more in need of an organ. And I understand that's a personal choice they make and I get the appeal of saving a young person who needs a heart or something difficult to get on a list...but some people, again not all, will choose to let another die to donate that organ. 

 

Again, thank you for your heroic act of doing your job, but there are shi*** people out there too. And I can only speak from my experiences and knowledge as well. My ignorance can only be solved with research and other facts but you can't prove it doesn't happen. So...sorry. 

@Lyaen Doctors have no say over who donates organs or even if organs get taken by a placement coordinator and moved to any number of hospitals. This isn't the black market, it is a strictly regulated and audited industry with competitive employment and genuinely difficult certification requirements. And that's on top of already needing a wealth of experience in the Healthcare industry, with preference for those who are at the bedside. It is not your fault you are ignorant about the process either, and I truly don't hold it against you. Organ donation and the process behind it is very rarely taught or even talked about in a constructive or educational way, and it thus leads to misunderstandings like Doctors letting patients die so they can donate organs to someone who needs them more. That's just not how the donation process works, as Doctors have no control over where any individual or package organs go. More than that, there's never a guarantee that consent will be given to donate organs by the family, even if that person is an organ donor. The myth that Doctors let patients die to organ traffick is propoganda meant to shake your trust not just in Organ Donation services and the lives they save, but also in modern medicine and medical professionals as a whole by showing doubt and mistrust. I do not know the region you live in, or the service that would cover it, but the company I have had personal experience with a few years ago is called Cascade Life Alliance, and I can't recommend checking out their page enough. They have an entire subsection just about the donation process and what goes into donation as a whole. Please check it out, if nothing more than to broaden your horizons.

@Ronin

I know what it SHOULD look like. Thank you. I understand both sides. So to assume I haven't done my research + my experience and ignorantly picked aside is doing a lot of work in your argument against me. It being propaganda/myth to shake our trust in a system that doesn't need any help in that area. Doctors dismiss cases constantly ESPECIALLY against women, that end up being far more serious and by then it's too late. So is it far fetched to think that "Oh, look, an organ donor who I don't like for xyz reason is dying? Let me just 'try' to save-- oh nooo." Yeah, you take an oath to not do that. And yet people, mostly women again, are also raped when they're put under. So...yeah. I think it happens. To say there's no way it ever happens? Is the more ignorant take. I'll look into your company, but their web page could just as equally be propganda.

 

I don't enjoy having my viewpoint. I'm just world worn and weary of people. We have all kinds of rules and regulation in place for plenty of things and we're constantly seeing them ignored, paid off, or recieve taps on the wrist for what should be a life time jail sentence. So forgive me for being cynical, I guess. :) But I am not ignorant. I wish I was because then I could be happy.

@Lyaen It is not my company, and I do not work in the donation industry. And while I have no idea of the research and experience you have, your arugements speak to your own ignorance. The dismissal of cases of terminally ill patients and sexual assault of others under anesthesia have nothing to do with Organ Donation services and frankly your attempt to connect them is implausible and hurts your own argument. And again, Doctors have no say in who donates organs, what organs get donated, or where those organs go. You are allowed to be jaded and "world weary" but you are letting your cynicism and worldview misrepresent facts. Medical malpractice happens, I'm not denying that, but but doctors killing patients to traffick their organs is so far removed from reality that it's a characiture of the truth, and just doesn't make any sense with deeper thought put into it. And again, other instances of bad people doing bad things and getting a slap on the wrist has nothing to do with Organ donation or your original argument, and ignorance and happiness have no causation between the each other.