@little_griffin yeah and i get that low tide in twilight is one my favourite(someone just mentioned it under your comment to me and told what did i even expect from this manhwa meaning she or he meant that its no different) but it was my first bl manhwa and it taught me healing doesnt come neatly or on time it had ra** too but it was shown as something cruel and devastating rather than romantic, forcing the reader to sit with the reality of power, fear, and lasting trauma do you understand mean? I mean there was toxicity in it too and it was heavy and suffocating i get it, it was a cycle that hurt everyone involved, but despite that the deep meaning was about survival and choice, about what happens when two broken people reach the lowest point and must decide whether to keep drowning in what shaped them or to learn, painfully and imperfectly, how to live beyond it