@Ghosty are you right in the head? You're just desperately trying to hate on Karl. Wasn't it Rue who just desperately wanted to sleep with him? I get that it was because of that bas**** Duke but from Karl's perspective she was the one trying to take advantage of him all along. And there's smth called depression with which both of them are suffering. He's not immune to it ok? Not when he's been suffering since his childhood