@Silly_gurl considering she also showed up out of the blue asking for money, from the child she abandoned at 5 years of age. She's pretty shameless. Forgiveness from Winter would be too steep an ask in my mind considering that as well. Understanding of her circumstances perhaps, but some things should be considered fine to not forgive. She didn't even care enough to leave him somewhere he might be cared for. She just dumped him. A young child would either wind up in bad circumstances, or dead.