Comment by Shu Wei on 4 Week Lovers - Chapter 51

Comment on Chapter4 Week Lovers - Chapter 51
Okay I really don't like him being manipulative and calling him dog again and again he's getting on my nerves 😠

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@Shu Wei you hate him for the manipulation he does for his love wich basically is: so his love can rest, be happy, comfortable without worrying about useless stuff? And on top of that, being cared and loved? 
Not every manipulation is bad... He himself is a dog if you look and really take attention to the story...
Basically, Both are dogs! He is calling him puppy with the meaning that he can take care of him and be close to him.
@Chibi

While ultimately the actions of the  ML led to better outcomes like them coming together or things like that , it doesn't necessarily make his actions fine or good. If you zoom out a couple of chapters the ML installed a tracking app in the MC phone without his consent , also logging into his phone to make sure they were the same roommates doesn't exactly scream cute! Besides that manipulation involves deliberately withholding information so that the other party cannot make choices which is what the ML is doing. Just because it leads to good outcomes does not make the actions itself good. We only see this in a positive light because he is the ML and not the antagonist or someone else.

@manhwaRead  Well, its true, i understand where you coming from , and  it is Manipulation! Manipulation, but saying it " just comes with good out comes" explains everything, you ultimatly are ignoring the fact that we know the reasons, but most importantly what the ML actually did, it turns cute when MC Is just getting good care of, from SOMEONE HE LOVES (this is extremly important to the story and for the context of this conversation). Of course it is a bit excessive, Ml its suposed to be more of a funny crazy character (doing something bad while doing no REAL harm).  
In the real world no one has acssess to the true intentions of someone , thats why we are scared of the Manipulation, here, we do have and In MC perspective you dont even know you are being manipulated BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY  doing good to your life, it changes NOTHING from your perspective and you only feel more relaxed and actually loving your partner(so the actions he refrained the MC of doing? Unexistent). You don't get refrained from doing something you want!  The reason we accept it it indeed cause its the ml towards the MC BUT thats obvious, MC loves ML and ML loves him, and we know that as READERS how deep their love runs, if it was someone, who we knew, MC had no feelings for, yes we would not take his side. Dont forget! Even in that scenario, if we dont have the antagonist perspective, we dont know that MC is even geting manipulated.

@manhwaRead Hope you understand that I agree with you that and yes! It is excessive, and Im not saying its fine, Its just funny cause there is no harm! Its a crazy fun love story.

@Chibi I agree with you for this chapter , since most of it was done for the fun of play. But 2 things: (1) intentions alone does not make an action good or bad , at least in my opinions (2) Earlier chapters the actions were on a significant scale like installing the tracking app and so. Going back to my earlier point which I still think remains if the ML limits the choices of MC which in turn make them happier even with good intentions IT IS STILL BAD. For instance the scene where the ML lies about their group partner not being there and lies to the group partner that the MC was not there. We saw this as funny and cute because the MC and ML wanted to spend time with each other. However this is still a bad thing since the MC would have chosed to spend time with the group partner , in turn deliberately lying to the MC restrcits his autonomy to make choices. 

Good intentions can matter, but they don’t automatically justify taking away someone’s ability to make an informed choice. The scene can be funny within the story while the ML’s behavior is still manipulative and wrong.

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