Comment by ASDFGHJKL on Surviving in a Romance Fantasy Novel - Chapter 21

Comment on ChapterSurviving in a Romance Fantasy Novel - Chapter 21
ASDFGHJKL
ASDFGHJKL ·12 months ago
sukbi was the reason I dropped this manhwa. She's so immature. Her love is a sweet forbidden romance with the thrill of getting discovered. In the end though, the mc gets killed not her. Even if the mc doesn't like her he will be punished for "seducing the crown princess" she's so annoying. On the other hand, the red head/lady in understands that he's in danger and despite it being embarrassing to reveal her infatuation she tells the mc and talks it out with him. Fu** you sukb

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@ASDFGHJKL  Have you read or heard female novels? Forbidden love, eloping and etc...The context of manga was obvious, dude is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Every concubine (those 4) would eventually want him. As for him though? He might become a mighty warrior general and his betrothal to one of them might be seen as a boon, if not all 4 of them. (Though concubine is de-facto a lover of a king so this is confusing the he** out of me as to understand who are these women towards the emeperor)
@Mr.Toilet if the laws in that fantasy world are exactly the same as they were in IRL Korea then the only way for MC to have a legitimate relationship with these royal concubines is if he himself becomes the Emperor, which is only possible if he starts a rebellion and overthrows the current ruling dynasty (which is exactly what his father tried to do and failed). It doesn't matter how much he may rise in rank, royal concubines are the property of the Emperor/Crown Prince while also technically being a part of the royal family, they can't be in any romantic or sexual relationship with anyone else. These women are born into their position as royal concubines and there is pretty much no legitimate way for them to be set free. Technically the Emperor can relieve them of their status as royal concubines, but usually when that happened the concubine in question first lost the Emperor's favor and even after being relieved of her status was still confined to the palace.
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Thank you for the infromation. 

That much i understood (didn't know the specifics of Korean harem system). My confusion mainly comes from the fact that they are concubines but are portrayed more like daughters of the Emperor. (+ they are freaking young). Even if we talk about crown prince ( i either don't remember him OR he didn't show up, yet). Also a lot of characters and positions in the court aren't being shown to us but should have been shown a long time ago. 

As for him getting one of them? Likely to happen, under the sky, Emepror can make any decision IF it serves his objective. Giving his concubine to another man to make him bound and loyal to him isn't something new. 

 

@Mr.Toilet

both the current emperor and the crown prince (aka future emperor) each have their own harem. The 4 girls that fell for MC are all from the crown prince's harem. Each concubine comes from a specific palace, and are usually the daughters of the clans in change of said palaces. The emperor is technically free to select any woman he wants to be his concubine and similarly he is technically free to relieve them of their duties as concubines and set them free. However just because the emperor technically can do that doesnt mean he would even if he doesnt have any interest in the harem. Why? Obviously, politics. For example, if an emperor were to show favor to a servant girl of no renown and make her his concubine, that can displease the nobility, and while they cant go against the emperor's orders directly, they may be provoked into secretly acting against the emperor and even try to overthrow him. Same goes for relieving a concubine of her duties on a whim rather than as a punishment or something like that. The nobles could consider this as the emperor disrespecting the noble clans. It doesn't matter if the man want's to give his concubine as a reward to a renowned general of whatever, that is still disrespectful towards the noble clans because the concubine is considered to be a part of the royal family while she's still within the harem. To relieve her of duty is cast her down from royalty back to nobility. Technically it's even worse because a noble clan wouldn't be interested in accepting a failed concubine back into the clan or the palace. It also severs the link between the clan and the royal family through which the clan could've influenced the emperor's choices, which means the clan isn't just disrespected, but also loses some of their political power as well.

Anyway, point is, concubines are concubines for life, or death (if they fu** up badly enough).

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The problem here? Some concubines are literally commoners. Correct me if i'm wrong but 1 is 100% a nobody, other doesn't have a backstory yet, 1 has a clan behind her (this one is actually understandable). 

I think you and I to some degree have better understanding of this system than authors writting this.

@Mr.Toilet

3 out of 4 are from noble families, as for the one that is a commoner, I'm pretty sure she is related to the noble family of her palace but isn't an official member of the family (an illegitimate child). Besides, despite being supposedly a commoner she is still considered to be a genius that was accepted by the palace, which means that she has political weight due to her connection with said palace.

As for how deep the author's understanding is, it's hard to judge based on manhwa. If I'm not mistaken this is a manhwa adaptation of a novel, and it's a well known fact that such adaptations usually cut out a lot of context to move the story forward faster.