@ghostsounds
Pt 1.
"this is not the time or place"
Actually, it is, and you have no right to decide that it isn't. I can't imagine a more fitting place to discuss themes of SA in yaoi than in a yaoi chapter with heavy SA themes.
"you are projecting"
Projecting what? Who am I projecting on? Do you actually know what that word means?
"full consent and confession of feeling AND time apart to confirm as much has taken place."
That's not how consent works. Except in the specific case where a safeword substiituing for no or stop is agreed upon beforehand, saying no is a retraction of consent given regardless of the context or circumstances that led to consent initially being given. No one has to continue having s** just because they agreed at first. If they want to stop halfway, they can. Even if Keith didn't actually want Della to stop, Della is legally liable for continuing after hearing the word no out of Keith's mouth. I doubt Keith will press charges in future chapters, but if this were real, he would have the right to, and assuming the jury had the full context and sufficient evidence, they would rule in his favor.
"but children who should not even be reading sm** to begin with"
What should happen is irrelevant. What matters is what does happen, and what happens is young people watch p*rn, read sm*t, and see lots of things that they aren't legally allowed to. For example, someone shouldn't be walking in the middle of the road but that still doesn't exempt drivers from penalties for running them over. People under 18 shouldn't be reading sm*t, but that doesn't change the fact that they do and it's harmful. I'm not saying that authors have to account for children who aren't allowed to read their works. This was originally a response to someone who said that yaois like this don't hurt anybody, which is untrue on several levels.
Pt 1.
"this is not the time or place"
Actually, it is, and you have no right to decide that it isn't. I can't imagine a more fitting place to discuss themes of SA in yaoi than in a yaoi chapter with heavy SA themes.
"you are projecting"
Projecting what? Who am I projecting on? Do you actually know what that word means?
"full consent and confession of feeling AND time apart to confirm as much has taken place."
That's not how consent works. Except in the specific case where a safeword substiituing for no or stop is agreed upon beforehand, saying no is a retraction of consent given regardless of the context or circumstances that led to consent initially being given. No one has to continue having s** just because they agreed at first. If they want to stop halfway, they can. Even if Keith didn't actually want Della to stop, Della is legally liable for continuing after hearing the word no out of Keith's mouth. I doubt Keith will press charges in future chapters, but if this were real, he would have the right to, and assuming the jury had the full context and sufficient evidence, they would rule in his favor.
"but children who should not even be reading sm** to begin with"
What should happen is irrelevant. What matters is what does happen, and what happens is young people watch p*rn, read sm*t, and see lots of things that they aren't legally allowed to. For example, someone shouldn't be walking in the middle of the road but that still doesn't exempt drivers from penalties for running them over. People under 18 shouldn't be reading sm*t, but that doesn't change the fact that they do and it's harmful. I'm not saying that authors have to account for children who aren't allowed to read their works. This was originally a response to someone who said that yaois like this don't hurt anybody, which is untrue on several levels.