Comment by Ilovemanhwaslikethat on Under The Oak Tree - Chapter 146

@Ilovemanhwaslikethat I dont think anyone's wrong for disliking her. Regardless of intentions or the why, shes still being cold, cruel, and objectively bitchy to her sister. Intent doesnt outweigh impact, and people are entitled to dislike someone behaving poorly even if the reasons are explainable. Believe it or not, some people just dont like mean characters 🤷🏾♀️ So long as they arent painting her as the "true villain" over the Duke, its fine.

@BlueBay so it's okay to be timid because of abuse. But it's not okay to hate the world because of abuse either?

@Ilovemanhwaslikethat "okay" is an exaggeration, no one really LIKES that Maxi is so timid. However, there is a difference between your trauma harming mostly yourself, and your trauma harming other people. Its the same concept behind it not being okay for a bully victim to become a bully. Even if we can see the path of progression, youre still choosing to put harm out there, and thats objectively going to cause a larger impact that outweighs your intent. If Rosetta were just bitter and jaded, I dont think people would care, because no one cares now. What people dislike her for is how she treats her sister, that her being jaded is used to tear her sister down. Output vs input: her merely hating the world is a step and a jump from trying to influence her sisters view of it and preemptively break her heart.

Again, some people just dont like characters who are mean to those undeserving of it, and you dont get to pretend theyre wrong for that. It only becomes an issue when/if they start painting her as the "true villain" over the Duke.

@BlueBay I suppose I am just as blunt and unemotional as Rosetta that I get how she feels. Rosetta loves Maxi. She is open about how she feels about Maxi to Maxi. She isn't being mean or tearing her down. She is reminding her that HER husband, at least, loves her and is devoted to her so there was no reason why she came back. Listen to the intent behind her words not the actual words.

I will add a spoiler so you know that Rosetta means well 

Rosetta is blunt and unemotional as she tries to make Maxi think rather than just do what she is told and spiral. It's Rosetta who is reminding Maxi that she got married to a powerful man and there was no reason why she accepted returning with her father. Maxi underestimates Riftan and keeps treating him with gloves when she should be well aware, than anyone else, that Riftan would move mountains for her.

There is nothing wrong in what Rosetta said. She is simply stating facts and expressing disappointment in Maxi's lack of trust in Riftan and the Princess. WHY WOULD RIFTAN DIVORCE HIS WIFE JUST BECAUSE OF A MISCARRIAGE!? If she trusted Riftan or even loved him with all the confidence she says she has, she should have stayed with Agnes and waited to hear his decision regarding their marriage. She shouldn't have up and left with the Duke whom she knows will treat her worse than she can not imagine Riftan doing to her.Rosetta isn't a bully. Mean, maybe. Blunt, of course. But she's not a bully. She has NEVER bullied Maxi. 

@Ilovemanhwaslikethat it seems you are not fully aware what years of abuse can do to a person. And the abuser coming into the person's life when they're not fully healed just shatters the already cracked mind. She was barely holding on, piecing together what was left of her with the emotions she felt during her stay with riftan. She hears of her miscarriage from the man who has abused her for years not only has she not had time to process this, she is also being attacked with other words like how her husband whom she loves will divorce her which she considers a possibility because of his behaviour towards her the last time they saw each other.

Now for her sister, everyone is talking about how they understand why people love the sister because she is strong-willed and doesn't hide the truth. Talking about how she is saying this for the betterment of her sister. Tbh if she did have the interest of her sister at hand, she would get her faraway from her father but nope she decided to hit her more while she was already down below. The hard truth is good sometimes yes, I don't dispute that but consider the situation first. @BlueBay said intent does not outweigh impact.

I don't know what happens next but I for one hopes she can get out of the hands of her father

@Ilovemanhwaslikethat I didnt say she did. What I DID do was compare her behavior to that of a bullied victim becoming the bully, in the sense that you putting harm unto others isnt justified just because of what you went through, and intent doesnt outweigh impact. Whether she has good intentions or not, the objective truth is she's kicking her sister while shes down, placing responsibility for not being able to stand against her abuser onto her, and being cold and cruel in a situation that doesnt require it. People like you like to equate bluntness with honesty, when that isnt inherently the case. You can be honest, even firmly honest, without being cruel. If the person is worse off than before you spoke to them, you didnt help them no matter what your intent was.

I feel like youre also being weird irt her listening to her dad just because he doesnt know Riftan. It completely ignores the fact that SHE doesn't really know Riftan. Not on a deep level at least. She loves him, but realistically she doesnt know a whole lot about him just due to who he is as a person. Given that this implied time period and society place a lot of weight on the production of heirs, and she's been told her whole life thats where any potential value she has is, its not out of left field shed believe a divorce would follow a miscarriage/lack of heir: BECAUSE ITS HAPPENED. AND ITS HAPPENED WITH PEOPLE FAR MORE POWERFUL, SKILLED, AND SOCIALLY ACCEPTED THAN HER. So combine those two things with her only being out of a 2 decades long abusive environment for...what...a year??? Her doing anything other than this would, quite frankly, be surprising (and a lot less realistic).

@Manhwajunkie Yes, thank you 💯