@bibliophage I live in America. I can't speak for every state, but in my state, what took place between Jo and Ian would not classify as ra**. Before I wrote any of those replies, I asked a family member who is in law enforcement and a friend of mine who is a lawyer did this constitute ra**. Both said no. I also asked my mom and a few friends if they would consider this situation ra** and they also said no.
My intention any time I write something on the internet, especially regarding topics as serious as assault, is to spread factual knowledge. Even if my personal opinion does not align with those facts, I will still state what I know to be true.
I appreciate the way you offered your insight on the topic and understanding of my pov, despite disagreeing with some parts. A healthy conversation around this topic is great for people to understand that sometimes things aren't always as simple as we'd like them to be. And I agree with you -- survivors of assault are faced with way too many barriers in seeking justice. The law is often unfair to them.
However, the law also has a responsibility to protect against false accusations and nuances. Because Jo was already on the brink of org*** when Ian passed out, and only continued for mere seconds afterwards, the law would not recognize that as a violation of consent. He had no control over the fact that Ian passed out. And the law would argue that he stopped as soon as he could, therefore not violating the consent that his partner had previously given. Does that make what he did okay? No. At least, not in my opinion. But it wasn't a crime. That was the point I was trying to make.
Personally, I don't care about endgame. I don't think that Ian should be with Jo or TJ. He needs extensive therapy. I just want him to heal and be happy. But I'm not gonna falsely demonize Jo when he doesn't deserve it. That's not right either.
My intention any time I write something on the internet, especially regarding topics as serious as assault, is to spread factual knowledge. Even if my personal opinion does not align with those facts, I will still state what I know to be true.
I appreciate the way you offered your insight on the topic and understanding of my pov, despite disagreeing with some parts. A healthy conversation around this topic is great for people to understand that sometimes things aren't always as simple as we'd like them to be. And I agree with you -- survivors of assault are faced with way too many barriers in seeking justice. The law is often unfair to them.
However, the law also has a responsibility to protect against false accusations and nuances. Because Jo was already on the brink of org*** when Ian passed out, and only continued for mere seconds afterwards, the law would not recognize that as a violation of consent. He had no control over the fact that Ian passed out. And the law would argue that he stopped as soon as he could, therefore not violating the consent that his partner had previously given. Does that make what he did okay? No. At least, not in my opinion. But it wasn't a crime. That was the point I was trying to make.
Personally, I don't care about endgame. I don't think that Ian should be with Jo or TJ. He needs extensive therapy. I just want him to heal and be happy. But I'm not gonna falsely demonize Jo when he doesn't deserve it. That's not right either.