Comment by Mari on BeautyIsPain

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@BeautyIsPain You can scream "nuance" all you want but no amount of faux intellectual posturing is going to erase what actually happened.

Ian passed out. Jo kept going. That is not consent. That is not "morally wrong but legal". That is sкxual assault. You can throw a tantrum about how much you wish it wasn't but legally and ethically, it is.

You keep whining "where did Ian withdraw consent?". Newsflash: when someone loses consciousness, consent is void. Nobody has to scream "no" while unconscious for it to be considered assault. You don't "earn" the right to keep using someone's body once they're unresponsive. This is basic, and the fact that I have to explain it to you is genuinely embarrassing.

You even said it yourself that "Jo's actions after Ian passed out were morally wrong". Congrats. You just admitted he kept going after Ian was unconscious. That's it. That's the definition. End of discussion. The fact that your brain still couldn't connect the dots says a lot about your mental capacity.

The law absolutely defines seх with an unconscious person as rаpe in multiple jurisdictions. And you defending it this hard is beyond disturbing.

"Ian probably wouldn't consider it ra**". You seriously sat there and decided to speak for a fictional victim to justify your twisted headcanon. You're using a character's trauma as a shield for your own ignorance. That alone should disqualify you from having any opinion on the matter.

You are not smart. You are not insightful. You are just so fuсking stupid it's honestly hard to read your messages without losing brain cells. Every sentence you write is a new low.

Shut the fuсk up. You're embarrassing yourself more with every reply.

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@Mari lol reading the breakdown of your fake argument through this sad comeback is also comical. You keep lying though. That's the part that gets me.

Saying that a man is a rap!st for cvmming a few seconds after his partner came and passed out would not match a legal definition of ra** in any jurisdiction ever. Jo did not continue intercourse for an extended period of time after Ian passed out -- he came literally right after him.  And the fact that you keep purposefully dramatizing it as more than that is sick. You are making up sh!t again and manipulating what happened in the story to fit your fvcked up narrative. Yet, you say I'm the one projecting onto the characters? Take a look in the fvcking mirror. 

I love how every time I prove you wrong with facts you come back with half-assed insults instead providing me with proof of why you're right. You're pretty good at deflecting and manipulating. Unfortunately, that doesn't work on me, sweetie. Try harder.

Oh, and neither does circular logic. Your "aha" moment of me saying Jo was morally wrong just proves that you lack reading comprehension. Newsflash, dumb@ss: THAT HAS BEEN MY STANCE FROM THE BEGINNING. I've said in every reply that he should have stopped immediately. But just because someone does something morally wrong it does not mean they committed a crime. You know that and yet you still continue to sit here and lie. Pathetic.

It's said when a person knows they're wrong and has no further argument, they resort to name calling and insults. Sad violin. I won't stoop to your level of childishness. Just try harder next time. At the end of the day, you are still wrong. Stfu. Respectfully.
@Mari thank you for a sane and grounded take. i often work with survivors of sеxual assault & it’s terrifying how many people still try to justify or defend rapists... what jo did is unequivocally ra** & there’s no grey area here. the moment ian lost consciousness, consent was no longer possible. the fact that anyone still needs this spelled out is fuсking pathetic.