It's not funny because I didn't miss it, and I'm not justifying Joe, I'm explaining him , a difference you would attempt to consider if you undertood that I'm clearly not rooting for either of the two .
I'm receptive enough to comprehend your clarification with the hand and bandage scenario. When I read it, I hadn't perceived it as a tactic because Joe wasn't planning on seeing Ian that day. He only wanted to when he saw Tj and he stopped Ian because at that point , he understood that Tj was part of Ian's darker sides of life which Ian himself , had told him that he had walked away from. He stopped him, to protect him in his own way. I don't see you calling it imposing when Tj was protecting Ian in his own way back in the past. Or did Ian ask Tj to help him get into the organization? Did Ian ask Tj to like him ?? He didn't. You look at Joe's actions as imposing because you obviously hate him and I'm not asking you not to, I'm asking you to look at them with level headedness. Regarding the guilt, Ian felt it because he regarded Joe's feelings. That wasn't manipulation. If he didn't regard Joe in any way he would do as he pleased . If someone told me they liked me and I wasn't interested in them , I wouldn't feel guilty dating someone else. You'll say anything to exaggerate Joe in such a henious fashion.
I can understand the disgusting accusations though but I'm not taking it personally because I've read enough yaoi to know what shock factors by authors look like. I'll spell it for you one last time regardless , I'm not justifying Joe, I'm EXPLAINING him, and I'm not rooting for Tj, I'm not rooting for either but I don't like when one is villainized and another glorified when none of them are healthy or better choices with how the narrative has unveiled so far