No this is just fked....it's not hot it's fking disrespectful...I honestly thought he was going to take him out and leave but I didn't expect him to stoop this low. He's being reduced to a body part, he can't even see his face. Imagine the guy that says he loves you is willing to make a fool out of you and humiliate you in front of 1000s of people.
Comment by guccibanana on I can hear it without a microphone - Chapter 22
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@guccibanana how is it disrespectful if it's his wishes..... YOU would feel humiliated and reduced to a body part. Beom clearly doesn't feel the same way. Stop projecting
@1Hsaturn Did you not see Beom was crying out of fear? But it's not even about the characters anymore, but more to do with how the author portrays s** via characters behaviours. Not everything is about projection...maybe learn what that is first before using it. And yes I would feel humiliated, for the reasons I already mentioned. What I find scary and sad is that some people think this is ok and are not even phased aobut this type of behaviour. But then again, this is just me and I'm mealy sharing my opinions here, and I know that there are minors here. When I read BL I don't come for sm** alone but romance, plot and interesting characters. I'm tired of authors romanticising abuse, r*pe and shi*** abusive couples...and I'm tired of lowering my standards to below sea level. Hope this makes sense.
@guccibanana I love you for thi
@amberr Well glad someone gets it lol. I do like the storyline, but some things don't sit well with me, and I will say as it is without sugarcoating.
@guccibanana but beom did asked for it and other person didn't know how beom was in this position
@A girl who wanna be soul of a boy Whether he asked for it or not, it doesn't make it right. This is especially relevant when you realize that Beom has a long history of trauma. A person with unresolved trauma will not likely have sound judgement and will not understand when they are being mistreated or are doing things where they are uncomfortable (hence why they are easily manipulated and gaslighted). If you remeber, Beom didn't even want to do this type of livestreaming, he was basically coerced and gaslighted into it by that assshat pervert. I'm looking at the context and how the author decided to portray the characters' behaviours to this situation.
Maybe a better question would be to ask yourself how you would feel if the guy who says loves you decides to use you as a "public toilet" in front of 1000s of viewers...given the fact that you were scared, nervous, crying and did not consent to this type of content to be put out (even if you realize the person on the other side of the wall is someone you know). If you remember, Beom just blurted out he would do this publicly without knowing what he was getting himself into. So basically he had no informed consent. You should never do something you're uncomfortable with. I'm just shocked the author brushed this off and completely skipped from Beom crying and being scared into being aroused. But if you're a reader who just likes BL for sm*ut then it's fine.
Ok I'm done trying to explain myself. Those who get it will understand where I'm coming from. But it's always good to reflect.
Maybe a better question would be to ask yourself how you would feel if the guy who says loves you decides to use you as a "public toilet" in front of 1000s of viewers...given the fact that you were scared, nervous, crying and did not consent to this type of content to be put out (even if you realize the person on the other side of the wall is someone you know). If you remember, Beom just blurted out he would do this publicly without knowing what he was getting himself into. So basically he had no informed consent. You should never do something you're uncomfortable with. I'm just shocked the author brushed this off and completely skipped from Beom crying and being scared into being aroused. But if you're a reader who just likes BL for sm*ut then it's fine.
Ok I'm done trying to explain myself. Those who get it will understand where I'm coming from. But it's always good to reflect.
@guccibanana bro doesn't understand consent. It makes a massive difference whether Beom asked for it or not and he did ask for it. He was scared at first but when he realised it was Dawon, he calmed down. Chill the he** out. There's a whole thing within the bdsm community where people who have trauma from SA actually enjoy participating in Consensual Non Consensual (obviously not every single sa victim is into that but it's still a thing). People with unresolved trauma still get to decide what happens with their bodies.
Beom enjoyed his previous public show so the fact that it was in a public space didn't bother him, it was the fact that he was left with no control over who came and screwed him. When Dawon came along, that resolved that problem because he knows and likes him
Beom enjoyed his previous public show so the fact that it was in a public space didn't bother him, it was the fact that he was left with no control over who came and screwed him. When Dawon came along, that resolved that problem because he knows and likes him
@Giaaa
Sigh...lol I am calm...I don't know why people are triggered when I'm merely sharing an opinion here.
I was not talking about consent with regards to Beom and Dawon. It was with regards to the public shoot in that unfamilar and sketcy environment. He blindly accepted this shoot without his "boss" explaining it to him what the criteria was. Had Beom known, he would likely have not done it or would have felt really uncomfortable/scared about doing it (hence why he started crying when he realized his body was made out to be a public toilet). He "consented" because it was Dawon on the other side of the wall true. But I just found it insensitive on Dawon's part why he would put someone he likes/have feelings for in an situation that made him look like a public toilet and degraded him (intentionally or not). At then end of the day, he was objectified as hole where you couldn't even see his face, despite the fact that this is his job.
If you look at Beom's history, he didn't want to do p0** livestreaming in the first place. His passion lies in art (sculpting). So this livestreaming started from a place of need not want (need to pay off his debt). Yes, your body is your responsibility and people with unresolved trauma can do what they want with it...however, there is a healthy and unhealthy/avoidant way of doing it. BDSM (in this case degredation kink) is romanticised in society (books, media, friend circle) but it stems from unresolved trauma. If you care to understand the less glamorous side of BDSM, research and you will see the psychological links of BDSM and trauma (often childhood trauma). And people who want to practice or engage in something unhealthy will do anything and everything to justify doing it (same with alcohol, drugs, sx addiction etc).
I'm speaking from experience of talking with friends who practice BDSM and who are abused by their partners but also are dealing with lots of internal trauma. I do understand this is fiction, but reading this gives me a different perspective.
Sigh...lol I am calm...I don't know why people are triggered when I'm merely sharing an opinion here.
I was not talking about consent with regards to Beom and Dawon. It was with regards to the public shoot in that unfamilar and sketcy environment. He blindly accepted this shoot without his "boss" explaining it to him what the criteria was. Had Beom known, he would likely have not done it or would have felt really uncomfortable/scared about doing it (hence why he started crying when he realized his body was made out to be a public toilet). He "consented" because it was Dawon on the other side of the wall true. But I just found it insensitive on Dawon's part why he would put someone he likes/have feelings for in an situation that made him look like a public toilet and degraded him (intentionally or not). At then end of the day, he was objectified as hole where you couldn't even see his face, despite the fact that this is his job.
If you look at Beom's history, he didn't want to do p0** livestreaming in the first place. His passion lies in art (sculpting). So this livestreaming started from a place of need not want (need to pay off his debt). Yes, your body is your responsibility and people with unresolved trauma can do what they want with it...however, there is a healthy and unhealthy/avoidant way of doing it. BDSM (in this case degredation kink) is romanticised in society (books, media, friend circle) but it stems from unresolved trauma. If you care to understand the less glamorous side of BDSM, research and you will see the psychological links of BDSM and trauma (often childhood trauma). And people who want to practice or engage in something unhealthy will do anything and everything to justify doing it (same with alcohol, drugs, sx addiction etc).
I'm speaking from experience of talking with friends who practice BDSM and who are abused by their partners but also are dealing with lots of internal trauma. I do understand this is fiction, but reading this gives me a different perspective.