@reinchel Same. Also, forgiveness should never mean that someone doesn't get punished. Really loving someone means that you want to them to be good people and will correct them if need be. Enabling bad behavior isn't something that family should. Enabling is not love and it's not forgiveness. I'm tired of people using the concept of family as a shield against consequences. Cutting bad people out of your life, family or not, is a good thing.