Comment by Shadow laws on Jk Haru Wa Isekai De Shoufu Ni Natta - Chapter 38

@Shadow laws if you're reading this with the mindset that men are victims to women's lack of communication/overcomplication, just leave.

@Denjizloved victim is a loaded word , i wouldn't say victim , i am just saying it would make both our lives way easier, and why would i have to leave?? U guys always whin about how World is not fair for women under every romance manga/manhwa , or other type of mangas too , but we point out one thing and we have to leave..... Intresting......

@Shadow laws the message of the series goes entirely over your head if you wonder in with a victim mentality. That's why I said leave. Bit of a dramatic misread.

And victim is an accurate descriptor, regardless of how you feel about it. For some reason, you think women are the reason for their own discomfort when there are multiple phrases made by men to describe sexual experiences not in women's favour. There is a constant disregard for women's comfort/safety that forbids women from expressing personal interest in a sexual setting, especially when it doesn't align with men's pornographic desires. So no, it's not "she should just talk about it, men are simple creatures".

@Denjizloved now who's playing the victim card ?..... Anyways ..
What phrases are there ? One example would be nice , and it is that simple, have u ever tried Direct telling a guy what u want , without playing games ? I don't know what kind of guys u are having relations with but most of the guys i know are delighted to do anything a girl ask , sexually, because it will result in her enjoying the deed as much as u are , which will result in more constant and regular sxx .... Which is always appreciated...

@Shadow laws ofc i think the women in these settings are the victims? When did I suggest they wouldn't be? I pointed out the absurdity in you justifications because you're blaming the VICTIM of someone else's incompetence. And an example of sexual abuse that's trending is "bull riding". I think the very fact you consider this concept nonsensical is proof that you believe that your own personal experiences with sexuality overrides the discrimination women actively face during sexual intimacy, ofc, along with your latter statements.

@Denjizloved jesus , it was a joke made by a woman in a podcast, and how many guys do u think are actually doing it ?? Do u think we are nuts ? A simple innocent touch can be considered sezual assault now a days , and u think men are going around bull riding, while woman tries to get away ...... Stop believing everything they say , stop living in social media........ Any other example , u might have experienced yourself? Not heard while scrolling on social media? 

And my initial comment was about communication issue not about forced or unwanted s** . if a woman has not told me beforehand about what she likes or not like during s** , then all i can do is try something that i think she might like , and if she doesn't like that and decides to keeps quiet about how she is not comfortable with what i am doing, how is it my fault ?? And how is she the victim?? This is absurdity.....