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Ýøùŕxxxdìćķløver
3 years ago
@Ýøùŕxxxdìćķløver I-I think tit**** are everything too...
can I get the pfp sauce?bunny sticker
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Da**!you so right!!...
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Byeol
3 years ago
@Byeol I came here for Ian but someone stole the spotlight but Ian might become one of best grey characters I love! Ian had truly turned into a monster, tried to deny all the dirt he did for the sake of not leaving TJ behind.Ian was so deep in toxic guilt and still is(I am still waiting for the real reason for that toxic guilt,obviously blind love alone didn't cause his self destruction)Ian could have totally avoided the whole jail time and protection money 'cuz that's what the lawyers told TJ.There will be no arguments TJ really used that opportunity to hold back Ian selfishly when Ian reflected on the broken monsters they had became even if excuses(like stalking & jailed only to protect Ian from danger cliché,won't make sense but ppl eat that,i have hope in this story tho)show up in the future 'cuz there is no way Ian who had killed b4 for the gang with no reason gonna feel better locked in jail for the 1st time he killed someone while defending midway & I'm aware this is an unplanned homicide not self defense the moment Ian grabbed the person who ran away but at 1st it was indeed self defense. Did you guys notice how the hotel tj currently lives in looks almost same as where ian did the killing? Almost look like 1703 from chapter 7 was the room that was infront of Ian's old room...(I focus more on how 3 key characters treat each other and play out in each others' life;their close ones than the gang surrounding 'cuz I chose to read a story that will never have moral punishment for their past but I won't mind if the author add some twist!)
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Jo is growing on me as each chapter pass by.I think he got a very accepting nature;live the moment b...
Jo is growing on me as each chapter pass by.I think he got a very accepting nature;live the moment but not impulsively & preserve it for long(like he slept with ian:he gave in for the moment but not impulsively cuz he thought it as a long run& jo regretted it when he got to know they had different idea of relationship they began while simply accepting the final call to leave)above all really kind towards the people around him(literally here for his aunt to help out when he is supposed to be stressed about quiting job and chasing photography)thus it was not that hard to believe he accepted ian & offered a friendship without involving pity & compassion like he said.Jo is illustrated with the most complicated nature thats hard to exist together so,his actions are going to unpredictable & predictable at the same time but not something it's hard to believe he can do that unlike how some ppl see him as pure and typical good character that act naively 'cuz he isn't.He is flawed in a beautiful way that's really rare. 

Jo is offering a friendship despite knowing ian could potentially bring him more harm,whether ian wish or not & I honestly don't see him as a character who will back off easily or stand by when things go south.Jo chose to believe Ian deserved 2nd chance in life(for those saying jo deserve better is understandable,sadly he chose not to leave but saying ian&TJ only deserve each other because of their life & time together doesn't make much sense when ian never wanted that life & activively trying a life much similar to jo so, as much as jo deserve someone better ian deserve better too(I'm sry TJ u are just not giving any sign for a new life).
it hurts seeing ian grin when he accepted their friendship & could care less if it came even out of pity almost looks like he wanted walk away only to never see jo disappointed about his regretful past &/didn't expect any1 to accept him regardless of the past to offer friendship(ian can't even forgive himself yet)Jo accepting him should have meant a lot.Holding the hands that they let go last time they had a conversation on the next proper one is beautiful.
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bearygirl
3 years ago
@bearygirl this whole thread about Joseph is so sweet. He is growing on us
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i don't know why but..i've never loved a character like i love joseph my heart melts for him!! i don...
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X**
3 years ago
@X** I am sorry to break it you but Ian's Korean name isn't exclusive for Tj. Jason (called him youngwoo when ian visited him on hospital chapter 16),Yangji said " hey,youngwoo.long time no see."even chiwoon informed tj "boss, Youngwoo is here." In chapter 7. who knew ian in the past know his Korean name and use to address him with that but Ian is trying to get away from thus he introduced himself first as 'ian' to jo (but don't forget that it's his English name, Koreans who live in abroad has and it's his real name too) the other thing jo was an ons to ian at that time and it's quite normal to use protection on your first time. I feel stupid to explain these things but I just couldn't leave for some reason BTW we are still in progress about jo &ian relationship but Ian actually cares far more than ons about jo. Ian is comfortable, care enough to question tj so, let's wait to see things getting more complicated :)
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Ian's Korean name is only for TJ. He doesn t want to Jo use it. Like he also let only TJ come inside...
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White ghost
3 years ago
@White ghost your welcome,
stay strong ! ૮ ˶ᵔ ᵕ ᵔ˶  ა ♡
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oh my g** I'm in tears
Thank you so much these words mean lot to me
I hope you have a goo...
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Direwolf_Lucifer
3 years ago
@Direwolf_Lucifer I am so sorry I clicked dislike when I wanted to like it 💜 noooo why cant we remove it bunny sticker
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Listen, I would love for Jo and Ian to be endgame
But right now, they (mainly just Ian) needs t...
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Tamagowaiiyo
3 years ago
@Tamagowaiiyo I am sorry it was confusing. It's like ian still has lingering love for tj but love filled with guilt that often waning(/diminishes)strength whenever ian see tj's changed new self but probably because ian is guilty of creating of tj's new self(relating to the scar) he only sees tj as how he used to be like an illusion so, ian still have feelings for that past tj.
Yes, like u said ian loves the tj in the past even if tj changed he couldn't let go of tj bcuz for Ian who refuse to see the changed tj in his eyes tj still the boy he loved so, only when ian accepts tj is not the same as he used to be we can say for sure if Ian still loves new tj or just guilt but he cares for tj whether tj changed or not for sure.
(Don't worry eng is not my first language either I suck at it too)

Pizza delivery man and the gold palace is 10/10 ik it sounds ridiculous to rate full but I love it to be so biased!!! lol you should check it out like (author)u-pi nim other works too.
[I will write down why I love it to that lvl, not really a spoiler but just in case u don't want that]
Spoiler!
U-pi nim wrote about 2 non toxic characters gradually falling in love with no useless misunderstandings cuz they communicate while showing people's struggles, burnout and panic attacks (dw author portrays it well) be warned its a slow burn love to the point we are waiting season 2 for intimate scenes

This is based on season 1 (only bl/no sm**) but season 2 (yaoi/sm**)  is already out in raw translation will be out soon 

[This definitely spoiler but if u curious about their dynamic in intimacy cuz so many ppl used to be *sigh* it's not even important but ppl *smh* anyway  I recommend you to find it yourself it's interesting that way ]

Spoiler!
If it's like u-pi other works seo-an(black hair) gonna be uke Woo-won(ash brown)will be top, we are awaiting a power bottom
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@Byeol

 im sorry i kinda confused on the first sentence( eng is not my first language) "...

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3 years ago
@. Yes he really did took all that courage like he even took a step back when he heard but he tried to find a reason why
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@KangDooshik the first person to ask ian why...that was so beautiful tbh  jo was taken aba...
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KangDooshik
3 years ago
@KangDooshik he is just god**** precious bunny sticker
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WHY IS JOSEPH SO CUTE WTF!
He was so relatable with that phone smack lmao how many colorful dre...
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Tamagowaiiyo
3 years ago
@Tamagowaiiyo the contrast I am loving it when you see tj and ian its like burning for too long left neglected while jo and ian is slow burn love waiting to get noticed idk like its clever as u said
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I'm basically Ian's stand im fine with whom he chose to love and
i know that even now Ian st...

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Tamagowaiiyo
3 years ago
@Tamagowaiiyo Yes doyak-nim does show Ian's love for the tj who didn't become something he is now and its really hard to leave them that's why it's gonna be hard for us to watch how this unfolds. it's not so mature to be mad at what u said. its hard and toxic but that's why it's always way harder to let go for ian.I am mad at them doing what they did to jo when he was in hospital but I can understand how it went wrong there while my heartache for jo not just jo anyone on that position without a clue why. I think ppl got really frustrated with 1 Month without plot moving much and got mad lol.

Same thoughts I am waiting for him fall in love with jo like I just love how they are hanging out without any feelings even but for ian to get this worked up for jo with this short time I believe my wishes aint in vain. I want all 3 of them to get happiness as far they are willing to but jo got my heart like he hits different with his actions
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i think Doyak-nim actually show us all along that Ian still love Tj or at leas...
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Tamagowaiiyo
3 years ago
@Tamagowaiiyo I love you view on this too for me Ian's love for tj got mixed with so many things that the least I would call it love personally. Ian's emotions straying at chsp 24 might be bcuz if the lingering love for tj. ian actually doesn't mind what tj did to him and indeed stayed in the gang for tj, he put up with it but it destroyed his dream and left him as a monster only if he left when he had the moment he wouldn't murdered someone but he stayed cuz he did love tj.i think after the murder he felt his emotions ain't normal and 2 years prison gave the time to think about this 3-4years distance to make tj stable without him while ian find a way to cut ties with gang while still be there for tj. I think ian didn't mind what tj did was connected to tj's scar like he uttered the same thing as tj did when he got scar " I didn't want to anyway " that's also the guilt ian tied with tj that makes this 3-4 years plan hard to work but seeing this ian is love with the past tj who didn't change which isnt the case now like u said tj hurting jo might be the last straw to break the illusion of the how tj used to be, who ian had in mind and can't abandon.(remember when ian used his hands to hide tj scar)
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I think Ian still love TJ for now ofcoz but i wouldn't say there nothing e...

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Ss
3 years ago
@Ss "The Pizza Delivery Man And The Gold Place" its one of the best 👌
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JakeG
3 years ago
@JakeG thank you. It's alright to simp for redflag when u know what they are. Sometimes It's interesting to see how their life folds too right
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@Byeol  You wrote this down so beautifully. I totally agree with you. (While I'm still simp...
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KangDooshik
3 years ago
@KangDooshik yes I hope to see how things fold when they are revealed
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@Byeol oh wait they changed that? I like how you said it. I like how jo is caring enough t...
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Byeol
3 years ago
@Byeol  I am not getting reality into fiction but some words toxic, obsession, love, attachment won't change its meaning if it's fiction.It's okay love how each of that play out in story and be more interested in it but let's just enjoy/criticize them as it is, not something else or lower its meaning
And also bcuz I wrote all this I realized how much interested I am on this and how well written it is(maybe not some part for me) I need the season to end soon and most likely it will with couple of chapters so I can relax and prepare for angst.sometimes over excitement can be exhausting so i need that break so badlybunny sticker
(Don't come at my throat for the long a** essay pretty please)
lmao i can already see"too long didn't care" comments. bunny sticker
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Ok guys hear me out its long but bear with me. something about chapter15 dialog is changed in Eng ve...
Ok guys hear me out its long but bear with me. something about chapter15 dialog is changed in Eng ver. to how it supposed to be,where jo asked about if Ian had some he loved the response changed to" there is ... there was"instead of" yeah...i had someone like that." but doesn't change much how everyone know Ian do have feelings lingering for tj but we all have different opinions on mostly what kind it changed into;sometimes what you think love once can change into something u still believe it's love but its actually filled with other things that now love is least thing that is(e.g., how some obsession is rooted from love but lost its meaning of love within it when it harms either of people involved and some of you will disagree on that part with me saying 'obsession is also love')
not a spoiler but why i say obsession is no longer love:-
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for someone like me who was kinda obsessed with my best friend realizing how much obsession i had might turn things hard for each other.Controlling that obsession and communicating made it so much better but i still regret the moment my obsession creeped out for the first time putting my desire/fear ahead of what my bestie truly wanted /& the love and care I had for my friend.even if i realized my obsession before I acted on them, it was scary to think what if i didn't ? how much of pretty much everything we had might have lost?)

Obsessions leads to destruction,I believe those destruction aint something u can forget it's something to regret, only a few ppl can forgive that and that's always a case where they were indebted to forgive which isnt healthy but okay???( if the depth was not deep ig)Idk how to take Ian's words 1) He was comfortable around jo(how Ian thought jo was open about his ex)to slip his feelings for tj"there...is"but ian(as a resolution) wanted to bury that feeling and let go"there was". 2) He was defenseless around jo(how jo's eyes makes ian weak/how he talk too much around him than intended)blurted out his feelings for tj "there ...is" but Ian(convincing himself)thought he buried that feeling and that he let it go already"there was".I believe Ian was both comfortable & defenseless during the conversation but more than that Attachments,separation anxiety from tj&ian's harsh life together/just trauma bonding made ian exhausted from loving tj thus why he said "we are just friends now" bcuz 1.Or 2. Ian wants to bury them while ian knew they're harming them; he is unaware that he is exhausted not just from gang but loving tj just like how tj knew he is exploiting Ian's guilt while unaware of his obsession yet.[Devoting energy to a relationship that isnt meeting your need will leave you frustrated & emotionally drained,it can get hard to communicate and give each other the love they deserved]but this was chapters/events ago so like so days/month has passed things changed to the point tj was pis***'i can't believe he gave me that look..'when ian asked"did u give the orders?...again?"(I also believe we don't get to see all the convos between jo&ian just like how tj&ian past convos just the key conversations & heavy plot, maybe i am wrong)Either way jo is kept in dark about tj and I understand why ppl want him out from their mess bcuz what ian did is misleading(personally, I hate that)last chapters were disappointing(not about author's work how Ian strayed away when someone is injured) but interesting how he got defensive for jo(bcuz jo is getting hold of something in Ian's heart)whilst relieved for tj(cuz tj still attached in Ian's heart)or ian might be relieved for himself that he didn't push tj into more destruction!(simply the guilt tied him to tj with a scar which made ian obligated to stay in reach while he wants to get away)that's how we know we are fuc*** up get your seat belts ready team ian,jo,tj,jo×ian,tj×ian my man ian got contradicting heart& life while jo is getting to know about his past slowly so,once tj is revealed to jo/Ian's more regrets we are in for a rollercoaster of emotions &angst!

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Vegaspete
3 years ago
How I see ian is a lot complicated than anyother characters but he is not an innocent one.I already got two things that rubbed me wrong about Ian without his past but his Past is not a good sight either full of regrets.Rgrets are only there when you did things wrong,ian pretty much did an extreme one which makes me question how much of second chance in life he deserve? I still find myself saying he do and that's because he is trying his best not to become even worse like he left his past world but some unknown guilt and connections ain't leaving him to be firm.
shouldn't forget without jo Ian's past is something that left buried in guilt.
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I don't get who's more toxic, ian or tj.....cuz tj has done the worst to ian just to keep him in his...
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KangDooshik
3 years ago
@KangDooshik sure things are about to become a mess but I think maybe next season?
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So far till chapter 28 it's like bittersweet and a new friendship...i am still emotional after reading chap 28 and my guess around 30 chapters season 1 will end so
Apart from this I really didn't like Ian just gave in to the s** but all these are just me like my personal discomfort. Not just ian and tj like any couple/fwbs having angry s** when you injured someone just bcuz they got involved in something they don't even know was this threating! you just saw them injured clueless why they are even in that situation and you decide to fu** ? like maybe there are reason maybe not but that's just
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 yeah we know Ian didn't say anything to stop TJ but knowing that ian was not really ready for a rou...
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