Comment by Jay on Kill Me Now - Chapter 21

@Jay do you know how to read

@lol Just goon in silence, please.

@Jay you clearly don't have reading comprehension 

@shan My reading comprehension is fine, but I question yours. Again, if you don't have the desire to engage with the narrative elements as presented, you are free to jack off without comment.

@Jay  1. Mian's not her daughter and no, Haegu didn't even remotely raise her like her daughter.

5. "Haegu can act like a martyr for wanting to f*ck a 13 y/o". What? 😭 First of all, Mian was 15, not 13 during that flashback. That makes a lot of difference because it explains what MIAN DID then. For a 15 year old girl, it's completely normal to have sexual thoughts, and that is what was happening with Mian back then. Mian's thoughts when she was wiping Haegu's body make it clear that she was thinking of Haegu sexually. She kissed Haegu, licked/sucked her fingers and then touched herself at her bedside. All while Haegu was unconscious/semi-conscious and unable to do anything and even think clearly. G**, she didn't want to fu** Mian back then and I don't know where you got that from. She was a victim. If anything, that was when Haegu started seeing Mian differently. How could she not, after all the things Mian did? Mian even kissed her again and confessed her feelings the next day. But then Haegu clearly put on a boundary and said she didn't like minors. She was horrified at the thought of Mian liking her that way because, again, what she wanted was for Mian to be a normal teenager.

@lol 1.       She is functionally, physically, and legally her guardian. Subjective familial sentiment is irrelevant when talking about the relationship between a dependent and benefactor. Hence (normal) people’s disgust with, say, Woody Allen. Or the general distaste towards men/adults who go on to sexually pursue children they watched grow up, whether there is a familial relationship or not.

2.       I feel like I shouldn’t have to explain turns of phrase, but it should be obvious that Haegu struggles with her attraction to Mian (although that evaporated pretty much instantly with no real exploration). Wallowing in self-loathing and negative self-talk -- instead of addressing the issue -- is a common method of dysfunctionally “dealing” with guilt (especially of the sexual variety) as it allows one to preserve the ego and self-conception by creating distance between a person and their desires. It does not have to be a conscious or intentional action.

@lol 3. I don’t “make it sound” like anything. But by your own admission, Haegu has indeed raised her in a psychologically unhealthy environment. Her intentions are irrelevant. The objective reality is that Mian was kidnapped by the woman who murdered her parent in front of her, then raised in a household where she is constantly subjected to and surrounded by the aftermath of murder, and is in fact actively encouraged to immerse herself in the infliction of violence. To compound this (and I presume no psychiatric intervention whatsoever to deal with the previous), there is no way for her to repair any kind of normal attachment because she’s enmeshed in a forced deception of the outside world, whilst said murderer (and now guardian) also spends the rest of her childhood saying her job is to grow up and take revenge by killing her. There is no earthly reality where this string of events would not be traumatic and formative, even if Haegu had the most angelic intentions (which she didn’t). I assume for now that Haegu making Mian an instrument of her own self-loathing was out of guilt for inflicting the same suffering she experienced as child, but it was a selfish choice in the end, regardless of the reason. She at least could’ve not killed the man in front of her. She could have placed Mian in state care, failing that. She did not take any of the other kids she rescued, mind you. So if her top priority were actually Mian growing up into a functional, adjusted adult, then the story would never have happened.

@lol 4. She’s giving Banwoo death glares primarily because she is jealous. Let’s be serious. You people getting in your feelings about my disapproval of Haegu’s behaviour seem to think my conception of her character is some long-term schemer and thus jump to pre-emptive defence against this accusation I never made, whilst ironically trying to tell me that I’m the one who can’t read. 

As I recall, the beginning of the series has the teacher make a comment that the kids are becoming of legal age that year (19). Given that Korean age is one year older than international age, that would put Mian somewhere between 18-19 years old. Ergo, five years ago, she was 13, maybe 14. Even if she was 15 years old, there is absolutely no difference between 13 and 15 in the eyes of a normal, functional adult when it comes to perceiving them as viable sexual partners (he**, it’s even hard to distinguish them because they age groups just look like children). Anyone who would disagree with that is either a creep (at best) or a child themselves. You keep bringing up Mian’s burgeoning sexual curiosity being normal, but nowhere did I ever dispute that it is. The only thing I said is that she didn’t have a snowball’s chance of normal emotional (or sexual) development when she’s surrounded by violence, her caretaker insists on facilitating her own murder, and her environment is generally psychologically unhealthy, which is a fact even you yourself agree with.