Comment by Galactic Navy Officer on After Being Reincarnated and Getting a Fast-growth Cheat Skill, I Also Ended Up With the Most Terrifying Skill?! - Chapter 9

@Galactic Navy Officer

It's called "preselection bias".  Women (generally) don't want men that other women don't want.  That means that (generally) women would prefer to participate in a harem with other woman than have the exclusive attention of a man who doesn't have other options.

This becomes even more extreme when you add things like wealth, power, fame and feudal society that's constantly at war. 3 wives?  I'm surprised that he doesn't have 20 concubines as well, just to make sure that the family has enough heirs. 

@Prinzinc Ah, yes, i have read that once a couple years ago. I think that's something to debate and not an extremely trustworthy condition/theory because there are a lot of variables behind it. It is interesting though when i read about it.

In this case, i'm more confused why the 1st wife even gives a cr** about it considering that it's normal in feudal societies to have more than one wife. I AM very surprised as well that he doesn't have concubines too... but maybe he does? I mean, he does have "harem maker" title after all, which implies having more than 10 relationships at the same time. 

Anyway, i'm more worried with the mc and his half sister being all weird with each other like that. Considering he has memories of his past life, potentially as a japanese person (as usual), he should be much cautious in drawing boundaries (unless being japanese actually makes it worse?! 😱)

@B P (Ult1m4) It's hard to know where the fine line is between the author intentionally messing with his audience and the author trying to create a magical world with rules that don't quite line up with ours.

@Prinzinc Regarding preselection bias, it's not really a topic to debate.  Women are hypergamous so they want the highest quality possible and generally compete with other women for that quality.  This is obviously due to the natural characteristics of being a woman (having a womb which takes 9 months to produce offspring).  Thus, (most) women tend to compete for the highest quality man and (most) men compete to be chosen by a single women.

Some studies you can look up right away are on gender based swiping statistics on dating apps or on studies regarding how attractive a man with a wedding ring is vs no wedding ring.

@Prinzinc I do agree that women are hypergamous, there is no doubt whatsoever about that. I simply do not agree with the preselection bias to specifically target men that are already taken as you indicated before. I did read about studies regarding this in the past year and some women do NOT want men that are already taken, even if they do want men that are physically attractive or have other very positive aspects to them that are easily represented on a 1st impression like money, influence, power and so on. Although, i would argue that men aren't that different in that regard.

So that's why i said it's up to debate, as written in said articles... mostly because it was a social study presented through a university thesis and i felt that reading it for curiosity sake.

@B P (Ult1m4)

Since women are the sexual selectors of the species, hypergamy demands competition between women which means that simply by philosophical deduction and without even citing a statistic, women prefer men who are valued by other women more than men who aren't (i.e. preselection bias).

And let's be clear, there is a difference between instinct and behavior.  Just because instinct might pull you in a specific direction (like how a man is driven my instinct to either kill or mate with everything that moves) that doesn't mean that our actions reflect that instinct.  However, as we fall further into degeneracy in our modern era and experience new levels of absurd hedonism, we are also seeing new and absurd levels of instant gratification culture which tends to bend entirely to the whims of instinct.

"positive aspects to them that are easily represented on a 1st impression like money, influence, power and so on. Although, i would argue that men aren't that different in that regard."

Men are very different in this regard and don't want the same things that women want.

@Prinzinc Ah, you meant as a more instinctive manner? Yeah, then i might partially agree. It's difficult to say with certainly that. I mean, it does make sense but... i still feel there is too much generalization in this manner. 

"Men are very different in this regard and don't want the same things that women want"

I would agree with you if it was... 30 years ago (i'm older than that). But nowadays? With the inversion of values in our society? I'm not so sure about it anymore. Maybe on a instinctive level you are right, but not otherwise. Many men are starting to have a thought process similar to women towards women or other men instead. But i guess we are discussing a different rabbit hole now. Again, as you have said, considering the degeneracy of our modern society... what used to be common sense and normal, isn't, anymore.

@B P (Ult1m4) "positive aspects to them that are easily represented on a 1st impression like money, influence, power and so on. Although, i would argue that men aren't that different in that regard."

This is probably the most easily misunderstood thing in our modern dating culture today.  For some reason women in our current era somehow mistakenly believe that men are attracted to the same things they are attracted to.  Generally speaking, most men don't care about your education, how much money you make, your influence or popularity or even if you are skilled in any particular thing.  As Kevin Samuels used to say, men are interested in the things that women hate to give them (fit, feminine, friendly, faithful, kind and submissive).

Although I think women also value fit, friendly, faithfulness and kindness in men, women tend to judge men under an entirely different set of rules that are both exceptionally more diverse and stricter than men tend to judge women under (generally speaking, although "Chad" is going to make his own rules).

One of my favorite things to do years ago, was to work on servers and listen to Kevin take calls from women who were failing at their dating/love life and they would always start with talking about how successful and educated they were.  It was at that moment, I would always smile because I knew what was coming next.

@Prinzinc "Although I think women also value fit, friendly, faithfulness and kindness in men, women tend to judge men under an entirely different set of rules that are both exceptionally more diverse and stricter than men tend to judge women under (generally speaking, although "Chad" is going to make his own rules)."

I have seen men go super-hard at the gym for months, save up their money like crazy, buy a house, car, get a whole new wardrobe, take speech and social lessons from tutors and go to all of the churches they can find in order to locate a single woman who might want to date them.  During the date, they'll pay for everything and try their hardest to please the woman.

And she'll disqualify him from a 2nd date due to how he ate the noodles.

On the flip side, Chad will insult and deride women and he'll never be lonely.  Chad is 6' 4" and fit.  It's really the only quality that seems to matter.

I've seen lots of social experiments where women make male dating accounts and experience this phenomenon for themselves because they refuse to believe it's actually a thing until they experience it from the male perspective.