@Rain I agree that many won't see Karl as innocent, and that is because we are shown the story from Rue's side. Had it been shown from Karl's side, you'd see a girl who was his queen and daughter of his enemy. He couldn't trust her ever, even if he wanted to. As a human what he did might not be justified, but as a king it definitely was justifiable. He couldn't just relay the fate of his empire in the hands of a woman who told him to trust her without giving a single reason as to why he should

@Anthy shut up I would Like to say. She isn't the victim of sh**. She's the victim of only that bas**** father of hers that tormented not only her but also Karl. And maybe you don't know but an enemy's daughter is by no way innocent. And not at all if she shows all the signs that she's involved. So shut this pathtic hate of yours and just let them heal

@Rhea same here. I care more about this new budding couple than the almost non existent realtion between Alphonso and Ariadne rn

@Heather Marie everything you said is true. Karloi's anger for Duke's loving daughter is as much justified as Rue's anger in karloi for not trusting her. And I think at the end of the day it's still Rue's choice whether she wants to accept or forgive him or not. And it won't be a surprise if she doesn't. For now, I just wish both of them mental stability. But the sad part is not all this but that everyone is badmouthing Karloi as if HE'S the villain of this story. That's actually a common characteristic for every side protagonist, when you see the story through someone else's eyes all the whole then suddenly changing the narrative and trying to make the other's actions justified does little good. But I think more than her hate for Karloi, Rhe hates herself for choosing him because it's clearly understandable for him as the king to not simply trust on the words of his enemy's daughter. For all he knew, she could be brain washing him. But all in all it's a tough road which I think is neither of their faults. They're just two humans broken beyond repair.

@Tehehehehehehe well I always had my suspicions that if her mother came to know that she was the source of her only daughter's misery she'd give away her life in a heartbeat. I always knew she'd do this because any mother would do the same. It was justifiable for Rue to suffer everything for her mother and it is also justifiable that her mother died to free her daughter. I'm saddened about the fact that her last moments must have been immensely painful. To think that you were inevitably the reason your daughter suffered so much all these years. But it was fate all along, everything here. And in his whole manhwa there's only one person to hate and antagonize and that's the bas**** Duke. Everyone other Han him is blue and grey in their characters. No one completely or even partially black. All of them are people moulded by their sufferings and circumstances and thus have very different personalities.

@Tehehehehehehe they're all just sadists. There's literally not one reason to hate him if you have the ability to reason. Otherwise foolish people can do anything, no one can stop them anyway. She just hates him because SHE is the one who chose him and not her mother. And because Karloi couldn't trust her complt. But let's be real, no one would have trusted her just because she asked to. Had he been a normal person, yes ofc he would have. But he's a king who couldn't just endanger all of his people's lives as well as his on a woman's words

@Tehehehehehehe so you've seen that comment too. It's honestly so frustrating to see that people are blaming all of this on Karloi when he had no freaking choice!!! Had I been in his place, I'd have honestly done worse to her. I would definitely regret it. But his situation is unfathomable. She came as the loving daughter of the man who killed his family. Many times tried to sleep with him. Showed no emotion whatsoever at first. Anyone at his place what assume that she wants the throne. And even after that he tried to be kind to her because he saw rue in her. I'm not saying that he was very good with her. I'm saying he has no reason to be good to her. He only loved Rue and could have never known that she was her. They both are the victims of one person. And I think too that people are putting her more because she's a girl and he's a man and he should be tough and what not. But in reality everyone has a breaking point. And both of them have apparently reached it

@Tehehehehehehe I agree with you. People just see what's shown to them from the start. Had it been from Karloi's point of view he'd have been a very pitiful character himself. But no one gives enough attention to him to understand his pain. But idk why I can understand his pain very clearly it's like I've gone through smth like that

@You guys read this too I reckon not sir. As you can see how they've clearly made a joke of their mental states and very ridiculously ours as well. So I gather there's not therapist, just a physician

@Ghosty are you right in the head? You're just desperately trying to hate on Karl. Wasn't it Rue who just desperately wanted to sleep with him? I get that it was because of that bas**** Duke but from Karl's perspective she was the one trying to take advantage of him all along. And there's smth called depression with which both of them are suffering. He's not immune to it ok? Not when he's been suffering since his childhood

@mexibot715  i ask the same thing to myself everyday

@Anthy  shut up.

@The girl whose a nerd Yes, I agree with you. The only person who would actually make a good fl, with overall background and pitifullness, it would most definitely be the youngest. She might as well be the fl of some other manhwa. She has all the reasons to be. Because in my opinion there's no one suited better to actually be called an fl here.